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What ethics should they have?
Playing philosophies?
Structure of the Club
Anything Else?
Which club most closely resembles the True Football Club?
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I believe that a true football club is a club that listens to and attempts to represent it's supporters.
They're playing philosophy shouldn't matter to be honest, you play to your strengths and if those strengths are to hoof the ball, then hoof the ball if it wins you games and keeps your fans happy or keeps the atmosphere alive then so be it.
I think a club should believe that football should be as much about having fun as about trying to achieve success, I think supporting a club like AFC Wimbledon must be very rewarding.
You have really just got to look at non leagues for a true football club like mentioned AFC Wimbledon, people holding real jobs and real families and real incomes, Still committed to playing on their free time, that's true.
They're playing philosophy shouldn't matter to be honest, you play to your strengths and if those strengths are to hoof the ball, then hoof the ball if it wins you games and keeps your fans happy or keeps the atmosphere alive then so be it.
I think a club should believe that football should be as much about having fun as about trying to achieve success, I think supporting a club like AFC Wimbledon must be very rewarding.
You have really just got to look at non leagues for a true football club like mentioned AFC Wimbledon, people holding real jobs and real families and real incomes, Still committed to playing on their free time, that's true.
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Melmmer, on 08 February 2010 - 10:50 AM, said:
What is it?
What ethics should they have?
Playing philosophies?
Structure of the Club
Anything Else?
Which club most closely resembles the True Football Club?
What ethics should they have?
Playing philosophies?
Structure of the Club
Anything Else?
Which club most closely resembles the True Football Club?
Football is a religion to any fan and the club should recognise and honour that. I don't know if there is a 'True Football Club' really; the closest I'd say was Barcelona. A lot of clubs disrespect their fans and their support, there is a lot of money-grabbing and players who don't play for the club, they play for their paycheck. So to be honest, I'd say a 'true' club is one that treats it's fans well and keeps it's players in check.
I very much look at Barcelona as being the team to set the bar. They have everything right at that club, the belief that the club is more than about football, the fans are treated well and the players behave themselves more often than not (if they don't, they're gone).
I very much dislike Real Madrid and the way they operate. It's the total opposite of Barca. They chase the player of the moment, lure him to the club and use them for income until they're sick of that player and they then move him on (Robben prime example). They also seem to lack ethics, their way of attracting talent seems very underhanded.
Obviously, their supporters are no different to Barcelona's; they all love their team and the game, but I think the hierarchy at the clubs dictate how a club is perceived- this is certainly true of Man United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Manchester City.
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Bilbao is the closet thing I've ever seen to a proper club, Barcelona has the other ingredients too, but it's a global phenominum these days, globalization and mass media has made it mega huge.
I love the fact that Bilbao is so principled and sticks 2 fingers up to the notion that the club needs to be successful and silver lustful.
Bilbao is rightfully distinguished and proud, and so it should be for not deserting their primary ethos, this makes them unique and this identifies them with the players on the pitch to the fans in the stand.
That is why we all crave to see one of our own on the pitch, because wearing our shirt is what we wanted to do as a kid. I love seeing successful youth players coming through and thriving in the club, especially if they are local.
The clubs have a responsibility on and off the pitch and a great number of them just dont make the grade in my estimation.
I love the fact that Bilbao is so principled and sticks 2 fingers up to the notion that the club needs to be successful and silver lustful.
Bilbao is rightfully distinguished and proud, and so it should be for not deserting their primary ethos, this makes them unique and this identifies them with the players on the pitch to the fans in the stand.
That is why we all crave to see one of our own on the pitch, because wearing our shirt is what we wanted to do as a kid. I love seeing successful youth players coming through and thriving in the club, especially if they are local.
The clubs have a responsibility on and off the pitch and a great number of them just dont make the grade in my estimation.
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Agree with Athletic Bilbao, also heard good things about St. Pauli in Germany too.
To be fair though, its difficult because any big club in the modern game has sold out somewhere, they have too. Can a 'true club' have a sponser put across its shirt? Should it agree to play games at stupid times to the detriment of the fans? Should its players be taking 50,60,70,100 thousand pound a week wages, so the fans cant afford to go?
To be fair though, its difficult because any big club in the modern game has sold out somewhere, they have too. Can a 'true club' have a sponser put across its shirt? Should it agree to play games at stupid times to the detriment of the fans? Should its players be taking 50,60,70,100 thousand pound a week wages, so the fans cant afford to go?
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I was going to write about Barca as well, they've paid UNICEF seven figure per year sums for their shirt sponsorship. I mean, it's one thing to have a charity replacing your sponsor, but to pay them as well? Fantastic.
When I went to Barcelona, despite it only being for about 2 hours, I could very, very literally smell football in the air.
Reporter – “You’ve got some scars in your face, Zlatan. What has happened?”
Zlatan – “Well…I don’t know…you’ll have to ask your wife about that”
Reporter – “Do you think it’s even possible for Ajax to lose nine points in nine games?”
Zlatan – “According to my calculations it is possible to lose nine points in only three games.”
Reporter - "If I say Anders Svensson and Kim Källström, what do you say?":
Zlatan - "Zlatan."
Reporter - "Is there anything in the world that could stop you from becoming no 1 in the world?":
Zlatan - "An injury."
Zlatan – “Absolutely not. I have ordered a plane. It is much faster.” (Zlatan about the rumour that he bought a super-Porsche)
(Upon being asked about the picture of him looking like he's about to embrace Pique) "Come to my house with your sister and see if I'm queer."
When I went to Barcelona, despite it only being for about 2 hours, I could very, very literally smell football in the air.
Reporter – “You’ve got some scars in your face, Zlatan. What has happened?”
Zlatan – “Well…I don’t know…you’ll have to ask your wife about that”
Reporter – “Do you think it’s even possible for Ajax to lose nine points in nine games?”
Zlatan – “According to my calculations it is possible to lose nine points in only three games.”
Reporter - "If I say Anders Svensson and Kim Källström, what do you say?":
Zlatan - "Zlatan."
Reporter - "Is there anything in the world that could stop you from becoming no 1 in the world?":
Zlatan - "An injury."
Zlatan – “Absolutely not. I have ordered a plane. It is much faster.” (Zlatan about the rumour that he bought a super-Porsche)
(Upon being asked about the picture of him looking like he's about to embrace Pique) "Come to my house with your sister and see if I'm queer."
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Queen's Park or Corinthian Casuals are true football clubs. Sport for the sake of sport.
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All a 'True Football Club' needs Is fanatical and passionate fans. That Is all.
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Palacios, on 08 February 2010 - 03:38 PM, said:
Agree with Athletic Bilbao, also heard good things about St. Pauli in Germany too.
Them cunts beat us in pre season 2-1, but Salif Diao scored from 50 yards with a misplaced pass.
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St Pauli are a tim club, they're defo not one \o/
Ironically though, I agree with Jan.
Ironically though, I agree with Jan.
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A real club has proper fans , Newcastle United 
But agree with Barca and Bilbao as well
But agree with Barca and Bilbao as well
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Jordo, on 09 February 2010 - 02:59 PM, said:
St Pauli are a tim club, they're defo not one \o/
Ironically though, I agree with Jan.
Ironically though, I agree with Jan.
I respect them alot, but I couldn't really give two fucks about them In terms of support. Alot of lads I know are fanatical about them, and It's vice versa with those Jerries too. Theres been a friendly arranged this May between the two clubs due to Sankt Paulis centenary year. It's gonna be a huge party between the two fans.
Game, on 09 February 2010 - 03:12 PM, said:
What the hell is a 'tim club'? Some spazzy jock anti-religious chit-chat?
Calling someone a Tim Is a derogotary sectarian term for a Celtic fan. Ban him!
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Yeah we absolute bum Hamburg and vice versa. I mean I quite like them, but I'm nae that fussed \o/
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Jordo, on 10 February 2010 - 12:13 AM, said:
Yeah we absolute bum Hamburg and vice versa. I mean I quite like them, but I'm nae that fussed \o/
Both Sankt Pauli and Hamburg are huge fucking rivals aswell. I have no Idea how Rangers formed their allegiance with them though.
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Yeah they're both based in Hamburg, they fucking hate each other.
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The link between Rangers and Hamburg dates back to the early 1970s when the Hamburg Rangers Supporters Club was set up by Rangers fans who had relocated to the Hamburg-area. The links were further strengthened when Rangers signed Jörg Albertz from Hamburg, but this was not the start of it. A further point which reinforces the affinity is the link between St Pauli and Celtic, main rivals of HSV and Rangers, respectively
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